Breeding sequence

[82ndreddevil]

So I just watched the video on the breeding sequence and I really enjoyed it! Just one thing that caused me to wonder. The demonstrations were loaded with tons of nearly continuos calling. Everything I have read or seen to this point gives a lot of caution towards over calling. I think it's cause I'm used to the cold calling method. I'm just wondering how to estimate weather or not if I'm over doing it. Any advice is appreciated.

[Heartwood]

If i'm under standing correctly, the breeding sequence is often used in a cold calling situation to create curiosity and interest from elk within earshot. It certianly could be used on elk that are already located and engaged but is often used in a cold calling manner. Last season, our crew used it to get bulls to talk that were silent before and some bulls came in for a look.
It is, by design, meant to be executed with long periods of calling followed by waiting periods. Many times bulls will come in silent and from any direction. Somtimes a hunter can use heavy deadfall, rock fields and other obstacles to direct an incoming animal to present from a direction favorable to the shooter. In this type of calling sequence, don't be afraid of overcalling, the breading sequence is meant to create excitment and curiosity. In Elknuts breeding sequence video, I noticed that Paul and Junior use somewhat different sounds but they both work. This is not an exact science but having confidence in ones calling and injecting feeling into ones sounds and calling really makes a difference.

[CurlyTail]

Here is my take. You would use this breeding sequence mostly when the Bulls are nonvocal and not sounding off spontaneously or in response to a locator bugle or a cow call. In other words, nothing is happening in the woods that day. By setting up adjacent to an area that seems likely to hold elk, and doing a breeding sequence - what have you got to lose. They may not be there - no harm done. They may be there but not come in - no harm done, they havent been educated in any negative way that I can see. I don't think calling, even poor calling, spooks elk out of an area

Over calling is when you have an Elk interested, and coming your way, and you continue to call and he pin points your exact location, and stops coming when no elk is seen.
Over calling is when one hunter hears another another hunter calling and it bugs him that you are in the same valley so he says you are over calling.
Over calling is random or purposeless calling, in the breeding sequence, you have a plan that involves a lot of calling to generate curiosity

[82ndreddevil]

Thank you guys for the feedback, that really gives me a better perspective of it! Thanks again

[Toby]

Where can I find the video?

[WapitiTalk1]

Where can I find the video?

Toby, the Elknut Advertising and Breeding Sequences DVD can be found in the Elknut store.

[ElkNut1]

Lots of great thoughts here! Thanks guys! OK, here's our # 1 way how we use the Breeding Sequence. It is used mostly when we come across several satellites harassing a herd bull & his cows. This means that there is at least one hot cow in the group! Breeding sounds by the herd bull & his cows is what brought the satellites there in the 1st place. What we do is imitate that same sound sequence, this brings in the satellites like a magnet! -- We do also use it in blind/cold calling sequences as we show & talk about in the video. We explain & show these sounds in detail for those that may be interested. This stuff is killer on satellites but once in a while we do bring in the herd bulls too but don't count on it! The DVD will explain the sounds used & distances that can be used depending on the encounter.

ElkNut1

[Toby]

Thanks RJ, I'll take a look.