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Another Rookie archer question

Postby Tigger » 03 16, 2015 •  [Post 1]

As some here know, I am fairly new to the archery side of things and have learned a lot from the collective wisdom on this board already. Archers in general seem to have a lot of different gear to choose from and that leads me to arrow rests. I now have a whisker biscuit, but want a fall away rest. is this one of those things that there are 14,291 different models and opinions or is there a couple that most people use? Any recommendations on how to spend my money? I want something that is fairly encapsulating so my dumb arrow doesn't fall off when that bull is standing there....

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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby wawhitey » 03 16, 2015 •  [Post 2]

Im brand new to compound bows, but as far as your arrow falling off the rest, i use a ripcord code red and i can lay my bow flat on its side without the arrow falling off. I think its a non issue
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby Mnbowhunter » 03 16, 2015 •  [Post 3]

I use a trophy taker smack down pro it's in closed so it doesn't happen to me either
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby archery bum » 03 16, 2015 •  [Post 4]

QAD ultra rest there's nothing out there that is better IMO
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby jmez » 03 16, 2015 •  [Post 5]

I've been using drop away rests for years. I much prefer them to cable driven models. I like the simplicity in design, set up and operation. When I first started using them I was worried about the arrow falling off the rest as well. It has never been an issue in years and I don't even think about it any more.

IMO the primary problem with an arrow jumping off the rest is a guy being overbowed combined with an aggressive draw cycle.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby 8upbowhunter » 03 17, 2015 •  [Post 6]

archery bum wrote:QAD ultra rest there's nothing out there that is better IMO

^^^^^^X2, best rest I've ever had on a bow.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby otcWill » 03 17, 2015 •  [Post 7]

QAD is the most popular closely followed by Ripcord and Trophy Taker. All are good rests. If you want the best, go with Hamskea. Anyone who 1) knows how to tune a bow and 2) has shot all these brands will agree that there is no rest comparable to the Hamskea versarest; infinite adjustability and bombproof. That said, I'd reccommend one of the first three to a new archer as they are easier to settup. Be sure to set up your rest as limb actuated. The reason I like this is because, as your strings stretch it affects your rest timing ultimately throwing your bow slightly out of tune. This is a non-issue with limb driven settups. Good luck!
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby Tigger » 03 18, 2015 •  [Post 8]

Thanks guys, I will look into those 3.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby pointysticks » 03 19, 2015 •  [Post 9]

I use an Axiom Pulse. Set up is so easy. I love the QAD but I wanted a limb driven rest. I actually attached mine to the up cable. Zero torque from the cable pulling tight. None. I love the thing. It cocks itself! I have a smackdown pro on my bench. No loved that thing too! But a few turkey seasons ago, it fell apart on a practice session. I put the Pulse back on as the backup. One arrow! Perfect bullet hole. The smackdown got fixed and now rides the bench has backup.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby huntfishtrap247 » 03 19, 2015 •  [Post 10]

QAD ultra rest for me as well.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby Fridaythe13th » 03 20, 2015 •  [Post 11]

What's wrong with the biscuit? Yes you loose a little accuracy at long range, but bomb proof. The 1st year out elk hunting one of the guys had a mechanical rest and it malfunction in the heat of the moment. He went back to the whisker biscuit no moving parts. just my 2 cents
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby Kessler10 » 03 20, 2015 •  [Post 12]

I switched from whisker Bisc to QAD ultra rest. Love it!
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby Pop-r » 03 22, 2015 •  [Post 13]

I agree with friday13th. Stay with the biscuit. No offense but you're wasting your money if you change up. Jmo. Actually not, I read an article about 2 years ago where a guy had 10 guys (very much pro archers) across the country do an in depth study on rests & their limits & abilities. After thousands of documented arrows shot. A Whisker Biscuit is the only way to go for its very small shortcomings. Smbdy else read it & may recall what I'm talking about? May not have been that long ago??
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby chipick » 03 24, 2015 •  [Post 14]

Honestly there is nothing wrong with a biscuit, but it will deform your fletching after a while. QAD didn't fit a PSE properly when I was looking for a drop away, rip cord code red was the next choice and with a few coworkers using them, felt good about pulling the trigger on one. The top capture bar on the rip cord is held on with one small alen screw which would come loose after awhile impacting fletching and throwing off the shot, so that is gone. Going to a drop away will give you a few more fps, save your fletching, and give you some confidence on the longer shots. But I have heard of some with a biscuit shooting out to 100yrds and taking game, proficiently. Myself I am thinking of a full capture type rest that won't contact the fletchung in the future.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby 82ndreddevil » 03 25, 2015 •  [Post 15]

I used to use a whisker biscuit, and then I transitioned to a QAD ultra rest. For me I would say its all about how far out you intend to shoot on weather or not it'll benefit you. I saw a huge improvement in accuracy going from 50 yards and beyond. So if you enjoy shooting out to 100 yards for practice than yea its awesome. If you practice within reasonable hunting ranges 60 yards and closer, you may not see much improvement. Some people think that some drop aways are loud and that the animal will hear it go off but in my opinion the string and limbs make far more noise than the rest. My next drop away will not be a QAD ultra rest though, too much plastic. I think id want something with a little more hardware built in.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby Tigger » 04 06, 2015 •  [Post 16]

The fletching problem is what I don't like with a biscuit. Doesn't take long at all and they are rippled and goofy. What seems odd to me is that at 30 yards my group is fantastic. At 40 it has opened up more than it should IMO. At 50 it is more pronounced. The discrepancy is more than the goofball shooting the bow I think. I was kinda thinking it may be my damaged fletchings/biscuit combo. So I thought I would start with that to see if it helped.
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Re: Another Rookie archer question

Postby pointysticks » 04 06, 2015 •  [Post 17]

Id love a biscuit. But I want to input as little outside forces to that shaft as possible. I fire that arrow, I want it free of me as soon as possible. I love how a drop away does that. Only the string is touching.

My bud had such erratic flight. I think he would drop his bow too soon. Once he went with a DA rest, he got much better thanks to the rests forgiveness.
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