Can you hunt it?

[mandrroofing]

I was looking at my maps the other day and i m not sure if its just a mistake or what but i noticed that there are some areas were public land over laps onto and over Private land?have anyone seen this and can you hunt it?There is a water hole within this zone id love to check out but i am just not sure. THANKS!!!!!

[cnelk]

Are you looking at the Colorado Hunting Atlas?

Its a tricky situation hunting next to private property boundaries. I have heard of guys being held at gunpoint if they are too close.
Lots of other areas to hunt for me

[POk3s]

Not sure what you mean by "overlaps". Does this mean there's a sliver of public land that goes through private. These can be great areas but this is where Hunting GPS Maps comes in. Somebody stops you and says you're on private land you point to your GPS and say no no. You can't cross any white to get to public land. There are land lock public lands all over the country but if there's a sliver of public as an access to get in there than it's game on.

[GetemDuck]

Yup, i've hunted land that is a fine line between public and private you have to know where you are at at all times.

Funny story about private property, my dads first year hunting elk get sees a cow getting ready to jump a fence onto private ground so he tries a head shot to keep her on the right side of the fence. After the shot she jumps the fence and runs over the hill. Dad wants to make sure she is not wounded so he leaves his rifle at the fence and walk 30 yards to the edge of the hill a looks over....there stood 6-7 elk staring at him at 50 years away they all look fine and he seen no blood so he just watched the elk walk away. Goes back gathers his rifle and gets back on national forest land.....that evening i meet up with him and he showed me where the elk was........." Dad you can hunt that, it is BLM the private ground is 80 yards around the hill yet" he was so mad at himself for that, but we learned to alway know what is around you where you can and can not hunt.

[Kirsch]

I was looking at my maps the other day and i m not sure if its just a mistake or what but i noticed that there are some areas were public land over laps onto and over Private land?have anyone seen this and can you hunt it?There is a water hole within this zone id love to check out but i am just not sure. THANKS!!!!!

This is why you need a TRAX map for Garmin GPS units. You will be able to see this ahead of time or realtime on your GPS. Let it guide you through the public land. It will differentiate it and even the borders of the public land will be highlighted to make it very easy to know where it is located at.

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[Brijake]

I've had the same problem in the past, looking at a BLM map and trying to coincide with my GPS. It doesn't work very well and makes it tough to stand your ground if confronted by a landowner. I recently purchased Hunting GPS maps for my Garmin and those days of not knowing exactly where you are are over. I unfortunately had a run in with a landowner the weekend of the 8th and he didn't care that I was right and did pull a gun on me and told me to get the f### off his land. I reported it to the sheriff's office and Game and Fish. Weird how I haven't heard a thing from either dept. I guess nothing can save you from a pissed off landowner!

[Lefty]

Many land survey's do overlap, a very common problem. In the west more often than not the fence is considered the boundry. The first survey is considered correct
However I have often hunted properties where I knew a private landowner placed a fence ( and gates ) well onto land that wasnt his. In the case of public land it cant be adversly possesed, or claimed and can be hunted (generally)
However you have to make sure you are right.

I use to really get a kick out of land thieves.
I was on a planning commission years back in Utah. An adjoining leaser always tried to run people off of the state land next to his hunting lease.
One night I was at the court house the evening before a hunt. I left the courthouse at closing.
Neighboring leaser tried to run me off the next morning. I told him I was at the court house the night before and it hadnt been recodred yet. That really ticked him off when I told him I accesed the state land from a City easment from property owned by a non fuctioning transportation company(railroad),.. And if he harrassed me any more I would make sure more people knew about the right-a-way and state land. I never had any problems afterwards.
My brother ended up in court for trapping too close to a refuge,.. the judge laughed the LEO right out of the courtroom.
I have dozens of stories and places Ive hunted and trapper on land "claimed by others

Got into a big dog fight with a greedy rancher in Wyoming. he didnt know where his land even was mixed in with public,. pulled out the map, showed him the survey pins then baffled the the heck out of him

Talk with the govening agency, talk to someone that knows and get their name

When we were running a traplines we always went to the land agency; BLM, Grasslands Forest Sevice and checked on our best loctions where we had neighbor problems to make sure we were correct.
Easy to do,.. Saves the hasssles if you runinto a grumpy neighbor and a tresspassing ticket
Just make sure you are right

[steviek]

On a recent elk hunt, I came across some private land that had a 50 to 100 yard wide clear cut on the property line. The posted signs were on the side opposite the national forest side. So while walking out of the national forest into a clear cut you could see the signs on the opposite side. My question is where would you think the property line would be? I can't see where the folks from the private land would be allowed to clear cut the national forest. I was told they clear cut this to patrol the area better. We did not see anyone on that property. It is a lot easier to travel the clear cut because of creeks and down trees in this area. I don't want to be wrong traveling this clear cut area when it might not be national forest property.

[>>>---WW---->]

It can happen. Be sure to look at the date on the bottom of your topo map. Some of those things are 40 years old. Lots of changes in land ownership can happen in that amount of time. As a matter of fact, land swaps happen on a daily bases. I like to use my Hunting GPS maps.com. It can be updated every year and mine is the version that shows me the land owners name so I can contact them if I so choose.

[Z Barebow]

Borrowing from the TV show "6 Million Dollar Man"- You have the technology.

As been stated before, GPS landowner chips. (I have TRAX). And keep it updated if you are in areas of question. There are websites where you can view landowners if in between chip updates. (EX Montana Cadastral). Fences are not always correct and you better have your I's dotted and T's crossed if you are going into one of those recipes. You need to have the correct/updated data to prove you are right. Otherwise if LE gets involved, it will be LO's word against yours and you will likely lose.

[Lefty]

,....Fences are not always correct ,.....

Sort of struck my funny bone. More often than not the private landowner placed the fence onto public land.

I have some propery along the Bear River in SE Idaho. When I had the ground surveyed the surveyer just laughed, ":ou neighbor just moves gences instead of buying land". One fence he moved 200 feet onto county property, another 75 feet onto an adjoining neighbor.
The feds and state generally place the fence correctly
One thing about posted signs: Ive hunted and trapped lots of places where signs were placed by other hunters or adjoining landowners to keep people out.
Again if you know for sure its a great place to hunt

As mentioned getting a LE envovled is often helpfull. Ive been charge with trespassing twice. Both times LE was bullied/threated by a nearby landowner. both charges were dropped at the courthouse. One time I was on public property the other time I had permission from my landlords uncle .
You really need to be sure
Get a picture and GPS reading.

[ElkNut1]

I agree, if possible get a SD/Chip from Trax here & install in your GPS, you will have no doubts then! My son & I both have this chip in our GPS from Trax plus they are a Sponsor here! Good Luck & stay out of trouble! (grin)

ElkNut1