How to produce "Woof" sound

[elkh00nter]

Hi all,

Been listening to all my Elknut audio files over and over. Paul Jr does some great bugles where he starts out with a brief "Woof" sounding grunt. Anybody have any advice how to make this great sound? If you don't know what I'm talking about I can try and isolate it and post a link.

Thanks.

[WapitiTalk1]

Terry, ya post the sound if you would. I think I know what you're talking about.

[elkh00nter]

Phantom,

https://soundcloud.com/elkh00nter/elkwoof

That took a bit more effort than I thought. I hope Elknut's OK with this brief excerpt from his audio. It's from the beginning of Vol 2 - I captured a couple variations. They may be recordings of real elk as opposed to Paul II. I've been listening/watching all of them so much I couldn't remember exactly where I heard it, but I could swear Paul II was making the same sound.

In the clip, the very first sound is the "woof" I'm talking about. The more I listen to it, the more I think it's just a variation of a grunt, I've had no luck making that sound and then resetting my tongue/breath fast enough to make the bugle/scream after it.

A bit later in the clip there's an ape-like shriek that precedes another bugle. Different sound, but another one I haven't had any luck trying to reproduce.

At this late stage in the game, I doubt I'll try and mimic them in the field. But, if you have any tips, I'd love to hear them for practicing next year. I think they sound really authentic, with a lot more character than standard grunts/bugles.

Thanks!

Terry

[powderhogg01]

I have decided I am going to dedicate as much time in the off season as I can calling and learning different calls. These guys are awesome at what they do.. ive got the playbook, time for the next level up!! I would love to make anything that sounds even close to these. such a small sample I can imagine Paul will have an issue with it, maybe he can shed some insight on how its made.

[ElkNut1]

Those are chuckles Paul Jr is making in that sound clip. He's a true artist with a reed & makes that sound look easy! (grin) They have a slight howl to them. When making a Chuckle as that it takes tons of practice & is tough to explain. You have to hear them & do your best to imitate them as you experiment different styles & your voice inflection. You definitely add voice inflection as you imitate his sounds. We can both make them, once you achieve them you'll not forget! (grin) Paul Jr can make those sounds as the best there is, he's 22 I believe in that video. Practice, practice, practice!

ElkNut1

[elkh00nter]

Thanks for the feedback, Paul. I'll keep practicing!

Would you say that those sounds are used similar to a grunt in terms of aggression/frustration, or is it more of an individual sound that's just part of a location bugle?

[WapitiTalk1]

Thanks for the feedback, Paul. I'll keep practicing!

Would you say that those sounds are used similar to a grunt in terms of aggression/frustration, or is it more of an individual sound that's just part of a location bugle?

Not to answer for Paul but here's a few random thoughts on your question (I'm sure the big guy will chime in if he thinks I'm off base). The chuckles Paul Jr. was using in that clip can make a herd bull see "red" but for different reasons than grunts. Chuckles are primarily a bull's method of calling cows to him... "hey ladies, come check me out... I've got a lot to offer". You can imagine what a herd bull thinks of this as he himself, has cows he's tending, and some flippant bull is trying to call them to him. Really can cause a serious reaction by a herd bull when you try to call to his cows. Chuckles are spaced pretty close, given in series from a few to seven or more, and are pleading/almost wimpy in nature. Grunts on the other hand are hard hitting, given usually as a single grunt or up to three or four, and... are confrontational in nature "hey you, get the he!! outa here before I stomp your lungs out"! They can cause a herd bull to see red if you're in very tight and are actually posing a real threat to his harem. Oftentimes though... grunts can send a herd bull over the next hill or two as fighting is oftentimes the least favorite response to a threat, particularly a distant one. It's probably better to keep the grunts in your pocket in most situations.

[ishy]

https://youtu.be/IPpFeCGRh-g
I have shared this clip before for the glunking, but it has a really good woof at the 1:15 mark from a satellite just off the screen. The herd bull has an immediate reaction to this sound. No doubt this will work when you watch this, especially if you are in close proximity to your target when you let it loose.