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Worst advice you ever got

Postby Bullnuts » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 1]

We can all agree that a lot of great advice can be found on this site. What's the worst advice you ever got though? I'm not looking to blow anyone up here, but I think we can share some of the humor. The season is still a loooong 7 months away!

Worst advice I ever got? 145 grain broadheads for elk! If you ever want to put the arch back in archery, try shooting a 2216 aluminum arrow, 5 inch vanes, and a 145 grain broadhead out of a first generation bow with fastflight string!
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Jaquomo » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 2]

"Forget the wind, just hunt"

Or as the guy told me as he was walking right into the elk with a totally backward wind, "Maybe something will run by us."
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Washington Wapiti » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 3]

"Sometimes you just gotta shoot it somewhere and wound it. Then you can follow it"
Yeeeeaeah . . . cuz that REALLY slows an animal down don't it??
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Triplebhunters » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 4]

You have to pack in 6 or 7 miles
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby jswbga » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 5]

That valley is easy to cross..... Or hill.....
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Swede » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 6]

The blunderbuss made the bow and arrow obsolete. All that arrows can do is wound animals.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby elkmtngear » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 7]

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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby WapitiTalk1 » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 8]

I can't remember any truly bad advice on this forum that's really affected me, just differences of opinions in cases ;) I do remember when I was much younger, a friends father told us both to "hunt up in the morning and down in the evening, and you'll always have the wind in your favor. He was about 1/3 right :D
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby bnsafe » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 9]

I don't think ive ever given anybody advice on here :D
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Washington Wapiti » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 10]

Bullnuts wrote:Worst advice I ever got? 145 grain broadheads for elk! If you ever want to put the arch back in archery, try shooting a 2216 aluminum arrow, 5 inch vanes, and a 145 grain broadhead out of a first generation bow with fastflight string!


LOL . . . like a lead balloon!
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Bullnuts » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 11]

Oh yea, one other thing - it wasn't advice but it went like this: "Yea, the truck is only about a mile if we go this way." I think I still have blisters on my feet from that little jaunt.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Fireball » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 12]

All of the Elk are above timberline :lol:
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Buglemaster » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 13]

" gotta be at or near timberline"

The elk I hunt spend all spring, summer & fall at around 9000ft unless pressured hard & then they just slip over onto a private ranch & feed in the hayfields.

"Dead down wind, scent blocker, makes you undetectable"

They might help, but nothing will mask or conceal human scent from an elks nose.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby JGH » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 14]

A buddy and I always laughed when people would say "They're only active at first light, and last light, so we might as well be napping in camp."

I've heard that about every sort of game animal alive. And I continue to hunt all day, in one way or another.

Napping is the best way to spend your time? Seriously?
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Jaquomo » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 15]

Bullnuts, I used to hunt with 2216s, 145 grain Muzzys, 5" feathers shot from my 68# pre-Fast-Flite Bighorn recurve, and it killed elk pretty dang dead.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Bullnuts » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 16]

Jaquomo wrote:
Bullnuts, I used to hunt with 2216s, 145 grain Muzzys, 5" feathers shot from my 68# pre-Fast-Flite Bighorn recurve, and it killed elk pretty dang dead.

You recurve guys always have an answer! :P
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Trophyhill » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 17]

The worst piece of advice I got after my first elk hunt and first bow hunt in '08 when I got skunked was, go back to rifle hunting :) I never took that advice and love bowhunting now more than ever.

A piece of bad advice I did take came before my first bow hunt. "Cheap equipment is as good as expensive equipment" boy was I wrong. Now I don't skimp on my bowhunting gear.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby JohnFitzgerald » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 18]

Triplebhunters wrote:You have to pack in 6 or 7 miles


+1
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby cnelk » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 19]

"lets camp here"
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby cnelk » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 20]

"hold this"
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby easeup » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 21]

A little off the subject but surely the sorriest thing ever said to me; and I post it here as maybe it will encourage at least one.

this one stung about 40 yrs ago. I have never forgot it.
...."you will never graduate, you're just wasting your time. Why don't you just go back to work with your Dad?"

I was raised to never talk back to an elder, so I just took it stone-faced. but inside I thought to myself, Oh yeh? so you think I'm a quitter. well you just sit back and see for yourself.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Lark Bunting » 02 11, 2014 •  [Post 22]

"Hey dad, we should try archery elk hunting!"
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby BrentLaBere » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 23]

" You're never going to get one with your bow, you cant even find them....just wait for rifle season"
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby goblue » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 24]

Dont hunt in the afternoon. The elk are bedded down and your wasting your time.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Trophyhill » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 25]

Don't hunt CO. The bulls are all raghorns
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Gutpile » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 26]

Some friends of mine would say i give the worst advice - cause i'm always saying "it's just a couple hundred yards further" - haha - i guess it's usually more ;)
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby howler243 » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 27]

we'll hunt from the truck. we'll cover more ground that way. its Colorado we shouldn't have to work for these bulls, their everywhere
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Wyo67 » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 28]

[quote="Jaquomo"]"Forget the wind, just hunt"

+ 1
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Toby » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 29]

Leave your grunt tube in camp, just use cow calls, elk will not respond to bugling any more.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby G Posik » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 30]

Worst advice I ever got? 145 grain broadheads for elk! If you ever want to put the arch back in archery, try shooting a 2216 aluminum arrow, 5 inch vanes, and a 145 grain broadhead out of a first generation bow with fastflight string![/quote]

Well heck the 310 grains I have up front must be all wrong! I shoot the same 715 arrow out of my longbow and recurve.

Worst advice I ever received is no one hunts this area! Then you wake up in the morning and there are 10 camps around you.

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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby G Posik » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 31]

Now the worst advice I ever gave was....... This climb will not be that bad. I turn around about 1/3 the way up and my buddy has that look of I HOPE YOU DIE. It was not that bad of a climb. That is my story and I am sticking to it.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby mtnmutt » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 32]

This was once posted on another forum. I am not kidding. I do not recall all the details. I did not follow the "advice". I just laughed.

"Women should not hunt"
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Indian Summer » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 33]

mtnmutt wrote:This was once posted on another forum. I am not kidding. I do not recall all the details. I did not follow the "advice". I just laughed.

"Women should not hunt"


What! Are we allowed to swear on here? What an asshole. Probably one of those guys who hunts to get away from his wife who is more than glad to see him go.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Wapiti » 02 12, 2014 •  [Post 34]

Gutpile wrote:Some friends of mine would say i give the worst advice - cause i'm always saying "it's just a couple hundred yards further" - haha - i guess it's usually more ;)



Ha ha that is awesome !! I thought I was the only one who used that one !! LMAO It's been that way all my life !! Thanks for sharing that !!

Elk don't bugle with wolves around. Hog wash !! Killed a 6x6 with a buddy last year and wolves were howling 150 yards away. In fact the more the wolves howled the more the elk bugled !! We snuck in on him and 3 cows and sent a arrow threw him !!
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Indian Summer » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 35]

Wapiti wrote:
Gutpile wrote:Elk don't bugle with wolves around. Hog wash !! Killed a 6x6 with a buddy last year and wolves were howling 150 yards away. In fact the more the wolves howled the more the elk bugled !! We snuck in on him and 3 cows and sent a arrow threw him !!


I hope people read that! I read posts all over the internet that say don't hunt western Montana, western Wyoming, or Idaho because the wolves have eaten all the elk. Public perception is waaaay worse than any real problems. There is still great hunting in those places as is obvious by looking at those of us who kill our elk there every year and like you said... they haven't forgotten how to talk either. With the internet people and media these days rumors spread like wildfire and people are way more likely to say the sky is totally falling than to pass on the good news.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby wiarcher » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 36]

Wyo67 wrote:
Jaquomo wrote:"Forget the wind, just hunt"

+ 1


+2 Said the guy who has yet to tag an elk.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby pointysticks » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 37]

" you know what? we should give up rifle hunting and just do archery 100%..how hard can it possibly be?"
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby pointysticks » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 38]

i want to change my answer,.

TRUE STORY!!

my first elk hunt. we skirted private property. i mean we were right on the fence line in our honey hole. we told the game biologist our strategy, and he said.."damn, you make that climb up there..you will kill an elk"..

looking into the promise land..we saw ELK galore. it was like elk-a-palozza!! they were everywhere! bugling away. my one buddy, looked us straight in the eye and said.."hey, let's jump the fence and go over there and shoot an elk. we can drag it back over the fence"

we brought 3 non hunters with us to handle the meat and help call. hahahha..the advice almost made me pee laughing.. trespassing? and dragging an elk? sure dood.

needless to say, we did not take that advice. we did however call one over the fence. hehe.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby JohnFitzgerald » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 39]

"It doesn't hurt that bad"
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby msd1228 » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 40]

Dang, I don't have anything nearly as funny as some of these gems. I guess the classic line from the so called "elk experts" that used to hunt in my area of SE Alberta **note the word USED to - funny how these experts never killed anything** was that "the elk don't call in this area - you make a bugle and they will be gone!" or "don't use anything but cow calls in this country, any bugle sound and the bulls will be over the next ridge before you can blink!". Love hearing people, to this day, spreading that word around. I'll just carry on calling in bulls with bugles every year (when the situation calls for bugling, of course). Those guys can keep bugling at the bulls from 250 yards away and wonder why they round up the girls and head out.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby pointysticks » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 41]

mtnmutt wrote:This was once posted on another forum. I am not kidding. I do not recall all the details. I did not follow the "advice". I just laughed.

"Women should not hunt"


hahaha...archery talk, right? i think i saw a thread like it at least..
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Jaquomo » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 42]

Worst statement by a fellow hunter: New guy to our camp heard all sorts of bugling going on in the valley above camp at 4 pm. Wind was still whip-sawing back and forth, as if does there every day until sunset. We warned him and his dad that they'd blow the elk up, to leave them alone for a few more hours.

"We're just going over the rim to have a look. We won't scare them or anything. We call elk in all the time in the afternoon."

So off they went. Those elk left and didn't come back for the rest of the season. My partner and I had been carefully hunting the herd bull in that drainage for the entire previous week, but only when the wind was right.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Bullnuts » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 43]

wiarcher wrote:
Wyo67 wrote:
Jaquomo wrote:"Forget the wind, just hunt"

+ 1


+2 Said the guy who has yet to tag an elk.

+3 LOL :lol:
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby husky390 » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 44]

"Here, take this radio with you. You need to have it in case one of us gets one down so keep it on at all times." Those stupid p.o.s. radios have cost me more game animals. I swear I'll never use one again.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Sneaky » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 45]

mtnmutt wrote:This was once posted on another forum. I am not kidding. I do not recall all the details. I did not follow the "advice". I just laughed.

"Women should not hunt"


My wife kills more deer than I do, these days. She's expressed interest in elk, but I'm scared to take her.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Swede » 02 13, 2014 •  [Post 46]

If you want to witness some really bad negative advise, just go to one of the other site's forums, and ask how is the ---- hunting in ---- unit. Warning: Be prepared to hear how incompetent the wildlife department is and how lazy the biologists are.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby mtnmutt » 02 14, 2014 •  [Post 47]

pointysticks wrote:
mtnmutt wrote:This was once posted on another forum. I am not kidding. I do not recall all the details. I did not follow the "advice". I just laughed.

"Women should not hunt"


hahaha...archery talk, right? i think i saw a thread like it at least..

Yes. They either locked the thread or took it down. Wise move by the moderators.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby pointysticks » 02 14, 2014 •  [Post 48]

New bad advice. Use a sharp razor to cut serving. I'm not a surgeon.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby riverbeav » 02 15, 2014 •  [Post 49]

+ 1 for not being able to call a bull in with a bugle.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Digit » 02 18, 2014 •  [Post 50]

If you are just going on a short hunt you don't need your pack.. worst advice ever :lol:
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Kevrod3 » 02 18, 2014 •  [Post 51]

Digit wrote:If you are just going on a short hunt you don't need your pack.. worst advice ever :lol:


That's crazy talk! Who wouldn't take their pack?!!

Mine is "you don't need top of the line $300 boots!"

My feet thanked me on day 5!
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby UtPreacher » 02 18, 2014 •  [Post 52]

"Just run the elk until you can keep up and get a shot"
And yes the advice giver still hunts this way.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby DMiller6868 » 02 18, 2014 •  [Post 53]

"Pick a direction and keep walking that way until you run into elk". Worst scouting trip ever.....
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby msd1228 » 02 18, 2014 •  [Post 54]

Digit wrote:If you are just going on a short hunt you don't need your pack.. worst advice ever :lol:



Haha, I remember when I gave MYSELF that horrible advice one day about 4 seasons ago. I was early morning and I had just parked my truck. I had no sooner turned my engine off and opened my door when I had 4 bulls sounding off about 500 yards to the SE of me. I knew exactly what these elk were going to do as they liked to feed on this one particular farmer's field all night then move back into the heavy timber just as the sun broke. Knowing more or less exactly where these elk were going to cross, but realizing I only had about 20 minutes to get there, I figured "heck, I don't need to lug my pack - I'm only going to X point and if I miss them I'll come back and grab my stuff". I ended up missing the elk crossing about literally 1-2 minutes and saw them about 100 yards ahead of me. This time I thought "heck, I can bird dog them for a few minutes and try to swing ahead of them seeing as I already came this far, if I can't catch them I'll run back and grab my pack!". Well, one thing led to another and 4 hours later I was waaaaaaay up in the middle of nowhere and really had no idea where I was. I ended up being 40 yards or less from the big 6x6 herd bull several times but could never get a clear shooting lane.

Once I figured it was time to get the heck outta there I realized how dumb I was. I had no compass, no GPS...I had nothing but my bow, rangefinder, calls, and 2 knives. I knew that if I kept trucking NW I'd eventually find my way out, albeit who knows how far away from my truck. Problem was that it wasn't quite so easy to figure out where NW was - it was an overcast day and the slope of the area I was in was anything but uniform - it was full up saddles, bowls, twists and turns. You couldn't simply ride the slope back down. Ended up spending the next several hours looking at the moss on the N side of the trees in order to find my way out. Really sucked when you'd get into a long stretch where the moss covered the whole circumference of the tree! Haha. Last time I ever went into the woods without my pack.

There was that 1 time I took my pack off and put it by that "really obvious" tree in order to make a quick play on a herd bull and ended up spending the next 3 hours searching for my pack that had my Swarovski's, top of the line GPS, several knives that were handed down to me, etc...All told around $5000 worth of gear, but that's another story....
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Ridgernr » 02 18, 2014 •  [Post 55]

"There is a spike up there, and I see a trail, he must be with the herd lets go" It was straight up literally pulling our way up by buck brush and a prayer that no one falls. When we got up there yep no elk they had moved over the top a vanished into who knows where.
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby Munkh » 02 19, 2014 •  [Post 56]

Mine was " you cant hunt Elk in the rain" Where do they go indoors? lol
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Re: Worst advice you ever got

Postby >>>---WW----> » 02 19, 2014 •  [Post 57]

Talking about broadheads: "Right out of the package is plenty sharp enough for me" :roll:
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