Wapiti Talk | Elk Hunting Forum | Elk Hunting Tips
 

Coolers for meat?

Moderators: Swede, Tigger, Lefty, Indian Summer, WapitiTalk1

Coolers for meat?

Postby ranjo » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 1]

Having never had an elk to deal with I am wondering if we have enough cooler space for 1 hopefully 2 elk. Last year my buddy and I had 3 coolers, 1 was 150qt and 2-75qt, so 300qts of cooler space. We packed them to the top with ice, duct taped them shut and wrapped them with sleeping bags. We still had all the ice totally frozen when we got back to Iowa 10 days later. I'm sure we have room for 1 elk, but 2? wishful thinking I guess, just wondered what all you elk veterans do. Thanks Randy
ranjo
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 7
Joined: 03 06, 2014
First Name: Randy
Last Name: Meyer

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby Trophyhill » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 2]

I have 1 120qt and 1 150 qt and it works although I am going to replace the 120 with a 150. If you debone I think you'll be ok but I'd take at least 1 more.
Trophyhill
 
Posts: 1175
Joined: 01 20, 2013
Location: Tijeras, NM
First Name: David
Last Name: B

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby Lefty » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 3]

Meat doesn't take up much space if boned

I hunt the deserts of Idaho for deer elk and antelope. Generally I hunt with 100-200 lbs of ice, 5 gallon blocks, 1 gallon milk jugs and 2 1/2 gallon water containers
If I have help, I bone everything, I try to keep my meat dry; so not at the bottom of the cooler. There is a 24 hour small town grocery store that sells dry ice I can stop and pick up if I need. Also I have a good wife, If I need the sleep and am driving home she makes sure there is ice as soon as I get home.
Nothing is quite right; skinning a too cold for my finger game animal in 90 plus temperatures :P

Years back a neighbor and his buddy built a trailer 4' of foam, about 4"x 6x'x 30 inches for capes and meat and where ever the hunt took them, Alaska to Mexico, BC and the Yukon. Ice and dry ice for a 3-4 day drive
Adding dry ice to ice can work great

If I didn't live under 3 hours from my hunt locations I would consider gas motor on the freezer easier than managing all the extra weight of ice and bulk of coolers
or a freezer with a generator

At one time I often fur trapped long distances from home. I had a narrow 7.5 cubic foot freezer so it would fit in motel room doors and an extension cord
Depending on nighttime temps I would let the fur spread out at night on a flat surface, or suspend to cool, cold nights I would get up at 2AM and roll l the fur, when I got up for the day I would place the rolls in the freezer
User avatar
Lefty
Wapiti Hunting - Strategy and Tactics
 
Posts: 7644
Joined: 06 25, 2012
Location: Pocatello Idaho
First Name: Dennis
Last Name: H

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby elkmtngear » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 4]

Double sleeping bag in the back of the truck...quarters wrapped like a burrito with dry ice on top.

Good for two days...been doing it for 15 years without spoilage, some years with a single elk, some with 2.
Best of Luck,
Jeff (Elknut Forums Sponsor)
http://elkmtngear.com/blog/elk-mountain/introducing-the-worlds-most-versatile-blind
the Elk Mountain SLIP System...SLIP it on, SLIP in, and get the SHOT!
User avatar
elkmtngear
Site Sponsor
 
Posts: 959
Joined: 06 11, 2012
Location: State of Jefferson

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby nuevo_eph » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 5]

So the elk (option 1) is wrapped in the double sleeping bag with the dry ice on top of the bag burrito? Or are you saying it is wrapped up in something else, (option 2) with dry ice on top, and THEN put in a double sleeping bag?

Interesting, NM can be warm depending on the season and this would handy to know.

Thanks, NEph
nuevo_eph
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 43
Joined: 02 27, 2013
Location: Socorro, NM

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby Indian Summer » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 6]

In my experience once an elk is cut and wrapped (boneless) it will fill about 3 of the 48 quart coolers. That's to the top with no ice. Obviously they can vary in size and I've had a few clients have to leave a little bit behind. We have it all vac sealed and frozen solid so ice wasn't necessary. I think 300 quarts of space is enough, or darn close, if you bone it out and use dry ice. I prefer that over water in the bottom anyway.
User avatar
Indian Summer
Wapiti Hunting Consultant
 
Posts: 5377
Joined: 06 14, 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
First Name: Joe
Last Name: Ferraro

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby Swede » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 7]

Based on plenty of experience, I totally agree with Indian Summer. If per chance you got a monster and you needed a little more room, I would take the boned out frozen elk in a box to town, and buy another small cooler. The chances you will need another cooler are so small, I would not think it worth the effort necessary to haul it out to a base camp.
Swede
Wapiti Hunting - Tree Stand Tactics
 
Posts: 10723
Joined: 06 16, 2012

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby ST52V » 04 10, 2014 •  [Post 8]

Last year in Wyoming we met a guy from Minnesota. He said they go to town and buy a garbage can. Put newspaper in the bottom and layer meat and dry ice in it. Then stick it in your sleeping bag.
ST52V
Rank: Spike
 
Posts: 188
Joined: 10 08, 2012
First Name: Robin
Last Name: Wise

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby ElkNut1 » 04 11, 2014 •  [Post 9]

Two 150 qt coolers for two elk & ice! Put a slim layer of ice on bottom then meat, another thin layer of ice & more meat, etc. until your elk is in the cooler. Duct tape around entire perimeter of cooler opening to seal it tight & keep in shade. Leave spill spout on bottom open so water drains. Open every 2 days to replenish ice & turn meat. Lots of other ideas to keep meat cool but with two coolers this works well. No dry ice!

ElkNut1
ElkNut1
ElkNut/Paul
 
Posts: 4675
Joined: 05 11, 2012
Location: Idaho

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby elkmtngear » 04 11, 2014 •  [Post 10]

nuevo_eph wrote:So the elk (option 1) is wrapped in the double sleeping bag with the dry ice on top of the bag burrito? Or are you saying it is wrapped up in something else, (option 2) with dry ice on top, and THEN put in a double sleeping bag?

Interesting, NM can be warm depending on the season and this would handy to know.

Thanks, NEph


I usually have them in trash bags and the dry ice blocks are wrapped in Brown paper. Then I just wrap it all up. The cold goes down from the top, so sometimes the bottom quarters are nearly frozen when I get home

This is probably the most space saving option I know of (if you are space limited)
Best of Luck,
Jeff (Elknut Forums Sponsor)
http://elkmtngear.com/blog/elk-mountain/introducing-the-worlds-most-versatile-blind
the Elk Mountain SLIP System...SLIP it on, SLIP in, and get the SHOT!
User avatar
elkmtngear
Site Sponsor
 
Posts: 959
Joined: 06 11, 2012
Location: State of Jefferson

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby slim9300 » 04 11, 2014 •  [Post 11]

I take two 165 quart coolers and leave one 100% full of ice. Two boned out elk would probably fit pretty well in one if it was empty, but that would defeat the purpose of the ice.

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1397263888.089635.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1397263888.089635.jpg (147.44 KiB) Viewed 10942 times
Work hard. Be happy. Annoy a Liberal. :wink:
2012 Bowtech Insanity CPXL (Crackerized!) #61/31" DL (Gold Tip Pro ~ 455 grains @ 290 fps = 86 lbs. KE!)
University of Washington; Foster School of Business Alum
User avatar
slim9300
Wapiti Hunting - Strategy and Tactics
 
Posts: 654
Joined: 06 11, 2012

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby BFlatlander » 04 11, 2014 •  [Post 12]

Elknut, you seem to steer away from dry ice while others seem to prefer it...I'm curious why that is? Can the dry ice damage meat?
BFlatlander
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 15
Joined: 03 19, 2014
Location: MN
First Name: Brian

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby Indian Summer » 04 12, 2014 •  [Post 13]

Slim I have that exact cooler. In Pa we call them Erie coolers as they have that hatch on top for tossing walleyes in while it is strapped down to the swim platform on the transom of the boat.

BFlatlander. The HUGE advantage of dry ice is no water. Water logging meat turns it grey and just doesn't appeal to me. But when using dry ice you don't want it touching the meat. It will get freezer burned. A couple towels or newspaper between the meat and dry ice so there is no direct contact is the solution to that.

Also... FYI... dry ice is so much colder than regular ice that if you put it on top of unfrozen meat it will actually freeze the top layer for you. I think that's a true testament to how well the stuff works. I love it.

A good point Paul made is to tape all the way around the seam between the cooler and the lid. Makes a big difference.
User avatar
Indian Summer
Wapiti Hunting Consultant
 
Posts: 5377
Joined: 06 14, 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
First Name: Joe
Last Name: Ferraro

Coolers for meat?

Postby slim9300 » 04 12, 2014 •  [Post 14]

I agree. I make sure that my meat doesn't get wet at all. Ever since I killed my first cow with a bow in a 2' deep creek and had to break her down in the middle of the thing, I don't appreciate wet meat. The ice is normally double wrapped in large garbage bags and the meat is laid out in a single layer on top. If possible the meat is rotated every few hours until cold/cool, once cooled it no longer seems to matter.
Work hard. Be happy. Annoy a Liberal. :wink:
2012 Bowtech Insanity CPXL (Crackerized!) #61/31" DL (Gold Tip Pro ~ 455 grains @ 290 fps = 86 lbs. KE!)
University of Washington; Foster School of Business Alum
User avatar
slim9300
Wapiti Hunting - Strategy and Tactics
 
Posts: 654
Joined: 06 11, 2012

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby bowhunterty » 04 16, 2014 •  [Post 15]

Great info. I would also recommend to drain the water off each day if hot. Last three years have kept meat in coolers while packaging it. No lost meat.
User avatar
bowhunterty
Rank: Calf
 
Posts: 84
Joined: 05 28, 2012
Location: Tri-Cities, Wa
First Name: Ty
Last Name: Reed

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby spyder24 » 04 20, 2014 •  [Post 16]

I take two 100 qt. Extreme coolers and a 52 qt. extreme cooler. A deboned bull elk will fit in the 100 qt. coolers with ice. The 52 qt. cooler is extra if I need it. I leave the ice in the bags it comes in and put it in non-scented trash bags to minimize the water getting on the meat. I also tape the lids shut and place a blanket over the coolers. I have never used dry ice.
spyder24
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 21
Joined: 06 21, 2012

Re: Coolers for meat?

Postby RichM » 04 21, 2014 •  [Post 17]

I have an inexpensive cooler question to add to the discussion;
Igloo, Colman or someone else for 150+ quart coolers?
Yeti would be out of my price range but are they worth the $700 price tag for a 160 quart?
RichM
Rank: Spike
 
Posts: 113
Joined: 06 08, 2013
Location: New Mexico
First Name: Rich
Last Name: M