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Broadheads

Postby Tigger » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 1]

Well, let's get some technical elk hunting talk going! What broadhead will you be using and why? I wonder if we will have any consensus?

I will be using GrizzlyTrick 175, 2-blade, single bevel. I just wasn't happy with my arrow performance using Slick Tricks. Two years ago I shot a nice bull through the lungs. Didn't hit a rib. Didn't get a pass through. Got the bull, but not happy with the arrow performance. So I upped the weight and switched to a 2-blade. I read Ed Ashby's stuff and he seems to make sense.

Alright, let the discussion begin!
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Re: Broadheads

Postby Pop-r » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 2]

I have a bunch of old Montecs I'm fixing to use. They fly fairly well and have done the job for me quite a bit. I was thinking of going to iron wills but I ask about them on other forums and got several replies that helped me decide against them.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby 7mmfan » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 3]

I have no skin in this game as I haven't shot a broadhead in over a decade now. I used to use Whackem's. They shot very well, and the few animals I was able to run them through never travelled far. Never shot an elk with them though.

Since then, I've learned that if I was to start up archery again, I would go heavier arrows and heavier broadheads. I like the idea of the 2 blade beveled broadheads, they seem deadly to me, especially for heavier skinned/boned animals such as elk.

Makes me miss my bow a little. I have a 40 yard long backyard that I used to shoot in. May need to set that back up and blow the dust off my Bowtech. It's practically a fossil now though.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby WapitiTalk1 » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 4]

Magnus Stingers again this year. They are labeled as a four blade head but they are actually two blades with what we used to call bleeders on the old Bear and Zwickey broadheads. They fly great and are devastating on impact.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby >>>---WW----> » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 5]

Our fearless leader is smarter than I thought he was. Good choice on the Stingers.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby six » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 6]

I will second the 2 blade stingers w/bleeders. Shot a cow elk with one and she never new she was shot. Nocked another one and hit the off side shoulder. She ran off 50 yds and crashed.

I've killed several whitetails with them and had a couple tip over within sight.

I've been told they are so sharp its kind of like getting a paper cut. They literally don't know they've been shot.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby maxracx » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 7]

Years ago I used the Montec G5s and they flew well, just not happy with their out of package sharpness. I then switched to NAP Thunderhead Nitro's. They fly like darts, are super sharp, and work well with my set up. I have taken an elk, a bear and a number of whitetails with them.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby ElkNut1 » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 8]

Magnus Buzzcuts with bleeders. 75 grain brass insert with 100 grain head, total axis 340 arrow wt, 460 grains.

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Re: Broadheads

Postby Jhg » 08 25, 2022 •  [Post 9]

Abowyer single bevel. Total arrow is about 560grains with great FOC. Broadhead shown already went through a bull elk last September.
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The why of it? There are very thorough studies done showing the superior performance of single bevel broadheads, FOC and other things like smaller fletching, shaft collars and etc. These things help when using trad gear, but can also help compound archers. Why many still use short, blunt BH's and light arrows is beyond me but I see that beginning to change.
Many get their shorts in a bunch over the information, have many examples of lethality using other set ups. Thats fine, and its not necessary to hang it out here because I chose my set up based on what has actually been proven to offer better results than most others. If that offends anyone, oh well.

Single bevels make an "S" wound channel. So the length of the cut is actually wider than the broadheads width. If it hits bone, the twisting acts like a lever, splitting the bone. This is the main reason I chose not to run with broadheads that don't do that even though in most other ways they look a lot like single bevels.
Bleeders have always interested me, but will probably impede the rotation of the single bevel BH. IDK, so stick with simple.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby Tigger » 08 26, 2022 •  [Post 10]

JHG,
That is exactly why I moved to a single bevel 2 blade. I piggyback off the knowledge of two of my buddies who are REALLY into it. I trust them and I trust the research that I did after talking to them.

I am also not a fan of the performance of my Slick Tricks on a 427 grain arrow with poor FOC. Didnt hit a bone and didnt get a pass through. That folks, is NOT good penetration. So I jumped my arrow weight up to 493 and changed broadheads.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby Jhg » 08 26, 2022 •  [Post 11]

If you look at this arrow, notice how much lethality is up front vs the total length. Thats FOC!
That long arrow (a side affect of having a long draw length) is a lever and when the weight is forward it takes very little to correct flight since the shaft length multiplies the impact of the fletching. Think of using a pry bar. It makes the work you are trying to do more effective, right? The weight up front is a slug, basically, that everything else is following. The longer the arm of the lever the less surface area it takes to stabilize its front end.

I call FOC the 45-70 effect. It ain't gonna stop until it goes through a lot of stuff.

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Re: Broadheads

Postby Jhg » 08 26, 2022 •  [Post 12]

Blood trail from a single bevel on a bull elk.
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He was maybe 10 inches away from this tree when he walked past it gushing blood.
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Re: Broadheads

Postby js80138 » 08 26, 2022 •  [Post 13]

Magnus Stingers 100 gr.
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