Wapiti Talk | Elk Hunting Forum | Elk Hunting Tips
 

Game Plan - #2

Moderators: Swede, Tigger, Lefty, Indian Summer, WapitiTalk1

Game Plan - #2

Postby WapitiTalk1 » 05 04, 2014 •  [Post 1]

Very early September, 0830, Eastern Oregon (figured I'd better throw the OR cats a bone before they beat me down), and you've decided to take your bow for a walk and try to still hunt through an area you know very well. The bulls have been quiet as heck so you figured you'd just pick your way very, very slowly, through an area you know has held elk in the past. As you come through some sparse timber, you hear what sounds like a possible bull rubbing on a tree. As you get closer, you see this horse rubbing this large tree with his forehead and antlers. Thermals are still flowing nicely from your 1 o'clock to 7 o'clock. He's 70 yards away. Cover is what you see, sparse pine and underbrush. What's your game plan to try and bring this guy home for dinner?


BigBullRubbing.jpg
BigBullRubbing.jpg (14.86 KiB) Viewed 7228 times
User avatar
WapitiTalk1
 
Posts: 9130
Joined: 06 10, 2012
Location: WA State
First Name: RJ

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Swede » 05 04, 2014 •  [Post 2]

I actually had a similar situation last September. I had some cover and thought I could use it to move closer. Somehow I got busted or he just took off. Anyway I sat my pack down and tried to use a few small fir trees to screen my approach.
With inadequate cover like I see in your picture, I would now just wait for the bull. It is likely he will come closer if he has no reason not to. I would not call as he can see where the call is coming from and will look for me. After walking back and forth a little he will bee line it straight away.
Swede
Wapiti Hunting - Tree Stand Tactics
 
Posts: 10723
Joined: 06 16, 2012

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Relentlessly Unforgiving » 05 04, 2014 •  [Post 3]

You mentioned that we know this area very well. With that being the case, I would try to position myself within shooting distance of the trail used and cut him off. Moving slowly while he is raking, using the minimum cover should get me close. I would like to have this opportunity!
Relentlessly Unforgiving
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 46
Joined: 02 13, 2013
First Name: Josh
Last Name: Robinson

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Toby » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 4]

If I had a decoy, I might try to pop it up when he was busy and then move off to the side. It's a gamble, but so is trying to sneak closer or calling.
Toby
Rank: An Elk Nut
 
Posts: 639
Joined: 01 11, 2013
Location: Wi.

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Trophyhill » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 5]

I would deploy the poison arrow decoy I'm going to buy and start easing forward and to the left until I had a clear shot at the vitals from about 40 yards.
Certified Elk Junky
Trophyhill
 
Posts: 1175
Joined: 01 20, 2013
Location: Tijeras, NM
First Name: David
Last Name: B

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Trumkin the Dwarf » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 6]

Stop, drop, a quick prayer for divine intervention, and then...crawl like a centipede :roll: , angling to his right/my left to open a better angle on the vitals.
User avatar
Trumkin the Dwarf
Rank: An Elk Nut
 
Posts: 682
Joined: 06 14, 2013
Location: Montana
First Name: Malachi
Last Name: C

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby easeup » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 7]

why are we stalking a horse with antlers? :)
User avatar
easeup
Rank: An Elk Nut
 
Posts: 980
Joined: 06 15, 2012
Location: TEXAS

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby navet » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 8]

easeup wrote:why are we stalking a horse with antlers? :)


Cuz it is in season ;)
navet
Rank: Calf
 
Posts: 82
Joined: 08 07, 2013
First Name: nathan
Last Name: douglas

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby swmoelk » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 9]

I would move to the closest available cover that would conceal my draw and wait. I'd rather him walk off on his own then alert him to my presence. Now I've found him I don't want to blow him out. Plus if it's that thin of brush a 60 yard shot at an undisturbed bull is not out of the question. Also wouldn't be a bad idea to deploy the Elkmtn timber butt decoy. I don't know much about OR but I'm guessing that thermal might hold for another 30-45 min at the most so time is ticking.
swmoelk
Rank: Spike
 
Posts: 123
Joined: 12 03, 2013
First Name: jarred
Last Name: brotherton

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby BrentLaBere » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 10]

Sit back and be patient....Wait for the bull to make his move and adjust accordingly if needed.
BrentLaBere
Rank: An Elk Nut
 
Posts: 1143
Joined: 12 20, 2012
Location: Bismarck, N.D.
First Name: Brent
Last Name: LaBere

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby ishy » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 11]

+1 with Trumkin. If he's really into to a good long rubbing I want to not loose any time and use every second to close the distance and get a better angle.
User avatar
ishy
Rank: An Elk Nut
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: 08 18, 2013
First Name: Bryan
Last Name: L

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Duck-Slayer » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 12]

Trumkin the Dwarf wrote:Stop, drop, a quick prayer for divine intervention, and then...crawl like a centipede :roll: , angling to his right/my left to open a better angle on the vitals.


Yep, I can hit a 4" circle at 85 yards so I'm comfortable at that range, but angle and get his vitals more exposed and give him a FMJ knap,
Matt
User avatar
Duck-Slayer
Rank: Calf
 
Posts: 90
Joined: 04 05, 2014
First Name: M
Last Name: K

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Screaming_btf » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 13]

BrentLaBere wrote:Sit back and be patient....Wait for the bull to make his move and adjust accordingly if needed.


I am going to do the same thing here. Let's see if he decides to make my life easy and just come closer on his own...If he doesn't then allot will depend on how loud the ground is..Ill probably crawl if I can get prone easy or if I have my decoy handy then try and move close behind the decoy when he is busy and looking down or away
Screaming_btf
Rank: Spike
 
Posts: 121
Joined: 12 31, 2013
First Name: Bryan
Last Name: F

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby zpd307 » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 14]

man, you guys are ballsy..... I wish I had enough guts to think I had a shot at putting the sneak on a bull that close with little cover.
User avatar
zpd307
Rank: An Elk Nut
 
Posts: 969
Joined: 02 16, 2014
Location: zumbrota, mn
First Name: gary
Last Name: s

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby jrnorton4 » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 15]

Charge like a wild banshee, bugling and holding my bow over my head. By the time he figures out I'm not a bull, I made it to 40 yds... :lol:

I don't know much about elk, but the deer I have hunted usually rub in the direction they are traveling. If this holds true for elk, I am going to do like the others said and get in the closest cover I can and wait til he makes a move toward me. If he moves away, I will dog him and try to get a little closer.
jrnorton4
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 49
Joined: 02 03, 2014

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby WapitiTalk1 » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 16]

Geez, wouldn't it be nice to have a camo blind available for this situation? I mean, have something lightweight and compact enough to have "with me" when I'm in the elk woods and an opportunitiy like this surfaces. It might just give a hunter the edge they need to get a shot.. Wait a second, I believe there's something on the market that fits the bill ;) I chose this "Game Plan #2" scenario to show how I envision the EMG Slip System being a valuable part of any hunter's elk tool kit. I'll have mine in hand, starting this fall!



User avatar
WapitiTalk1
 
Posts: 9130
Joined: 06 10, 2012
Location: WA State
First Name: RJ

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Wapiti7 » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 17]

Honestly, I don't think I'd do much. Think Norton hit it on the head, elk rub in the direction they are traveling. I'd watch him and if he continued rubbing from that direction, I'll bet dollars to donuts he'll walk right to you when he's done rubbing which could be a while. When his head is down rubbing, I'd go to the closest patch of cover to best conceal my draw which might be behind me and be ready to throw out my drunk hiccup (think you guys call it a nervous grunt). We had almost this exact situation in NM last year and it worked perfect until my bro screwed up when to draw. Worst case, elk does 180 and walks away...go to Plan B which might be send hunter ahead and caller walks away starts beating the sap out of his own tree (preferably just out of sight of the elk) and if I was solo, I dog him until he screws up (rubs)again. Golden opportunity!
Wapiti7
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 23
Joined: 04 25, 2014
First Name: Jeff
Last Name: Hix

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Gselkhunter » 05 05, 2014 •  [Post 18]

You know while he is rubbing his eyes are closed. Walk up and kill him.
User avatar
Gselkhunter
Rank: Spike
 
Posts: 199
Joined: 04 19, 2014
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
First Name: Gregg
Last Name: Stevens

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby ElkNut1 » 05 06, 2014 •  [Post 19]

Stay put & count my lucky stars I wasn't spotted to that point! Wind is good so I'd stay patient & still & let the bull dictate my next move. As things develop this will help in my decision making to up my odds in killing him. I would not call from this spot at all but let him continue on in his normal movement. My odds are good here!

ElkNut1
ElkNut1
ElkNut/Paul
 
Posts: 4675
Joined: 05 11, 2012
Location: Idaho

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Gselkhunter » 05 08, 2014 •  [Post 20]

ElkNut1 wrote:Stay put & count my lucky stars I wasn't spotted to that point! Wind is good so I'd stay patient & still & let the bull dictate my next move. As things develop this will help in my decision making to up my odds in killing him. I would not call from this spot at all but let him continue on in his normal movement. My odds are good here!

ElkNut1

Is this the same Paul I know? When did you ever do nothing?
User avatar
Gselkhunter
Rank: Spike
 
Posts: 199
Joined: 04 19, 2014
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
First Name: Gregg
Last Name: Stevens

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby ElkNut1 » 05 08, 2014 •  [Post 21]

Sometimes silence is golden! (grin) Yep, no calling is needed at times, that situation as shown is one of those times for best odds of a kill. One may have to stop him or turn him with a nervous grunt once in range but most likely that would be the only & last sound he heard!

ElkNut1
ElkNut1
ElkNut/Paul
 
Posts: 4675
Joined: 05 11, 2012
Location: Idaho

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby Drawnandpinned » 05 15, 2014 •  [Post 22]

I liked Greg's response cause a book I have says go for it in that situation but from the picture he's facing u and never have I ever seen them walk backwards so I would probably sit and wait see what he does
Drawnandpinned
Rank: Calf
 
Posts: 90
Joined: 05 11, 2014
First Name: Bryan
Last Name: Duersch

Re: Game Plan - #2

Postby JPD350 » 05 16, 2014 •  [Post 23]

First off I find it hard to believe in that sparse cover I didn't see him until then!!
But if I was lollygagging around and found myself in that scenario I would stay standing with release clipped and watch him like a cat and adjust if needed, like others have said he is almost in the shooting zone.
User avatar
JPD350
Rank: New User
 
Posts: 38
Joined: 05 10, 2014
Location: New Mexico
First Name: JP