trick pin system

[ctdad]

The single pin thread reminded me of this. I think this idea holds a lot of merit for elk hunters. Worth the read IMO.

http://www.rokslide.com/2012-01-09-05-0 ... inq-system

I've never used this system but I'm planning to try it out this spring and if I like it, I'm going to set up a sight to use this for elk hunting. I'm on the fence now about whether I want to use a 7 pin sight like the author or switch to fewer pins and possibly a slider.

Anybody ever try this system?

Anybody have any thoughts on why it would or wouldn't be a good idea for elk hunting?

[Toby]

I looked at this a while back, didn't try it, but it does look like it would work. Pretty similar to gap shooting with a recurve, except you don't have to estimate yardage.

My only hesitation is that in the excitement of the moment, I would forget and just aim normally. Or, when I came back to hunting Whitetails using regular sight pins that I might aim a foot low.

[archery bum]

I did set this up on my hha sight. Worked good when I set it up in my back yard. Went to a 3D shoot and started using it on uphill and downhill shots and I couldn't get it to work. Went back home and tried it again and it worked perfect. Shot downhill with it again and it didn't work,shot high every time. So for me anyway worked good on flat ground, but when I went to shoot up or downhill couldn't get it to work. so I gave up on the idea.

[quarbles]

i made my 5 pin into a 2 pin. one at 30, one at trick. that way i have a clean sight picture and 2 pins that i use in conjunction. love the trick pin!

[wapitibowman]

This is a cool idea. It makes sense. The only thing I don't like about it, you have to aim 12" low of where you would normally aim. Anybody else have trouble with uphill/downhill shots??

[ST52V]

I am not looking to insult anyone. When shooting up hill or down hill form and correct yardage is very important. First you want to draw as if you are on level ground. Get your anchor pts and then bend forward or back keeping your T shape until your pin is on target. If you draw with your bow pointing up or down at a target your anchor will not be the same. Most guys will shoot high out of a tree stand because of this. In steep terrain the actual distance to a target can be 10 yds less ect.. The steeper it is the farther the target the more it can differ. Thats where a good angel compensating range finder comes in. This has been touched on in other threads shooting steep angels before we head west. I have read up on the trick pin and will try it out the next time I head west with my bow. I hope this will help somebody since we are all here to learn and have different experiences.

[archery bum]

The point of the trick pin is so you don't have to range or move your pin from 0 to 40,45 yards. But I do have a angle compensating range finder and did range the elk at the 3D shoot and was well within my range for my trick pin set up. After I shot high with the trick pin I adjusted my sight too the range I got on my range finder and shot dead on where I was aiming. So I don't think there was anything wrong with my form. But thanks for the advice.

[ctdad]

That's interesting that you had issues with the trick pin shooting on hills. The author said it works well on hills. I'll definitely be checking it on hills when I experiment with it.

[jmez]

Author is also a former lead design engineer for Hoyt and competitive shooter.

[Toby]

Could it be that very steep angles just make it more difficult to judge the 12" below target aim point?

[archery bum]

Not sure what was going on. Worked perfect in backyard every time. Tried a few things too get it too work, they said from the bottom of the chest too the center of the chest is 12" on a elk. So its kind of hard to screw that one up just aim at the bottom of the chest. Good luck with it, I'm not saying I wasn't doing something wrong but it is pretty straight forward. I just lost confidence in it.

[Toby]

It seems to me that when I look down at a steep angle at an animal that it's body is not as deep in appearance as it is when looking at it broadside. So I can see where that would throw the 12" low aim point off and would cause one to shoot high. I find that even when using normal sights that I have to aim a little lower at steep angles, and I do bend at the waist.